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Alice Maud Thurza HOBB

Alice Maud Thurza HOBB

Female 1882 - 1946  (~ 64 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Alice Maud Thurza HOBB was born in Oct 1882 in Plymouth, Devon, England (daughter of Harry HOBB and Thirza Ann COCK); died on 6 Dec 1946 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1891, St James, Gloucestershire, England; Relation to Head of House: Daughter
    • Census: 1901, 22 Rounceval St, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England
    • Residence: 1901, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England; Age: 18; Relation to Head of House: Daughter
    • Residence: Mar 1907, The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; Address given as residence just before marriage to Clifford JORDAN
    • Immigration: 7 May 1910, England to Canada
    • Census: 1911, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    • Residence: 6 Dec 1911, R.M. of Rosser, Manitoba, Canada; Relation to Head of House: Mother

    Alice married Clifford Whelpton JORDAN on 2 Apr 1907 in Shirehampton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. Clifford (son of John Crook JORDAN and Kate WHELPTON) was born in Jul 1881 in Clapton Wick, Somersetshire, England; died on 20 Sep 1952 in Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John Henry JORDAN was born in Mar 1908 in England.
    2. Living
    3. Living
    4. Living

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Harry HOBB was born on 17 Feb 1856 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England (son of Henry HOBB and Jane PAWLEY); died on 13 Mar 1921 in 2 St Albans Road, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1861, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Son
    • Residence: 1871, St Stephen by Saltash, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Servant
    • Residence: 1881, Charles The Martyr, Plymouth, Devonshire, England; Relation to Head of House: Boarder
    • Residence: Dec 1881, 28 Well St, Plymouth, Devon, England; Residence just before his marriage to Thurza COCKS.
    • Residence: 31 Dec 1891, Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; Location at the time of his wife's death.
    • Census: 1901, The Grapes Hotel, 22 Rounceval St, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England
    • Residence: 1901, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England; Age: 45; Relation to Head of House: Head
    • Residence: Jun 1909, The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; Residence at the time of marriage to Rosa Caroline CARY
    • Census: 1911, The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; aka George Inn
    • Residence: 2 Apr 1911, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; Age: 55; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head

    Notes:

    Day Month08-Jun
    Year1856
    Parish Or Reg DistrictPillaton
    ForenameHarry
    SurnameHOBB
    Sexson
    Father ForenameHenry
    Mother ForenameJane
    ResidencePillaton
    Father Rank ProfessionLabourer
    Notes
    Transcriber Notes
    TranscriberG Furse


    Name:
    Harry HOBB (b 17 Feb 1855), was the owner of the Grapes Hotel in 1901 when Florence was living there. He was a widower and had 3 children, two of whom also lived in the Hotel. I can't prove there was ever a connection between Harry Hobb and Florence, but I suspect there was. For one thing, barmaids in hotels were usually family members or wives of the owner. Harry lived there with 2 of his children with no other domestic help. Florence also gave her children names that were quite similar to Harry's. Harry's children were: Alice Maud Thurza, Edith Emily Beatrice, and Albert Henry George. Florence named her children: Edith Florence Alice, William Henry, May Beatrice, and Albert Edward.

    Harry Hobb lived in Bristol from about 1887 until about 1896 and then went to the Grapes Hotel in Chipping Sodbury. In In 1904 he was back in Bristol and in 1909 he remarried. He remained in Bristol until his death in 1921. The only relatively stable time in Florence's adult life seemed to be between the years of 1903 and 1908 when she lived at 11 Clare Rd in Bristol, possibly coinciding with Harry's return to Bristol.

    Harry's children immigrated to Canada and Florence would eventually do the same. There is no mention of Florence or her children in Harry Hobb's will.

    The 1901 census took place on March 31, 1901, so Florence was about 3 months pregnant with
    William Henry FISHER. But she already had a daughter, Edith Florence Alice FISHER (b in 1900), who is not living with her in the hotel.
    Florence lists her name on the census as "Florence Fletcher", and states she is single, but William and Edith's birth certificates state
    that her name is Florence FISHER and that she is married to Harry FISHER. Where are Harry and Edith?

    Update 2016: DNA evidence seems to suggest that the father of Florence Fletcher's first two children, Edith and William, was Harry HOBB.

    Harry married Thirza Ann COCK on 15 Dec 1881 in Plymouth, Devon, England. Thirza (daughter of William COCK and Amelia ALLEN) was born about 1859 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England; died on 31 Dec 1891 in Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Thirza Ann COCK was born about 1859 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England (daughter of William COCK and Amelia ALLEN); died on 31 Dec 1891 in Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1861, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Daughter
    • Residence: 1871, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Daughter
    • Residence: Dec 1881, 58 Well St, Plymouth, Devon, England; Residence just before her marriage to Harry HOBB
    • Residence: 1891, St James, Gloucestershire, England; Relation to Head of House: Wife

    Children:
    1. 1. Alice Maud Thurza HOBB was born in Oct 1882 in Plymouth, Devon, England; died on 6 Dec 1946 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. Edith Emily T HOBB was born in 1884 in Plymouth, Devon, England; died about Sep 1884 in Plymouth, Devon, England.
    3. Edith Emily Beatrice HOBB was born on 22 Dec 1887 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
    4. Albert Henry George HOBB was born in 1889 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; died on 27 Mar 1948 in New South Wales, Australia.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Henry HOBB was born in 1825 in Pilllaton, Cornwall, England (son of John HOBB and Deborah LAUNDREY); died in 1889 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, Pillaton, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Head
    • Residence: 1861, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Head
    • Residence: 1871, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Head
    • Residence: 1881, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Marital Status: Widower; Relation to Head of House: Head

    Henry married Jane PAWLEY on 16 Jan 1851 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England. Jane (daughter of George PAWLEY and Elizabeth LAWRENCE) was born about 14 Jul 1833 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died about 31 Dec 1874 in St Germans, Cornwall. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Jane PAWLEY was born about 14 Jul 1833 in Landrake, Cornwall, England (daughter of George PAWLEY and Elizabeth LAWRENCE); died about 31 Dec 1874 in St Germans, Cornwall.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, St Germans, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Wife
    • Residence: 1861, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Wife
    • Residence: 1871, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Wife

    Children:
    1. George HOBB was born on 13 Apr 1851 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    2. Elizabeth HOBB was born about 1852 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    3. John HOBBS was born on 13 Jul 1854 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    4. 2. Harry HOBB was born on 17 Feb 1856 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England; died on 13 Mar 1921 in 2 St Albans Road, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
    5. Jane HOBB was born on 28 Mar 1858 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England; died in 1940 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    6. Samuel HOBB was born about 1861 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    7. Frederick HOBB was born about 1863 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    8. Ernest HOBB was born about 1864 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    9. Charles HOBB was born on 28 Dec 1868 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    10. Edward HOBB was born about 1870 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    11. Emily Rosina HOBB was born about 1874 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.

  3. 6.  William COCK was born about 1836 in St Tudy, Cornwall, England (son of William COCK and Elizabeth RETALLACK).

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, Tywardreth, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Son
    • Residence: 1861, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Head
    • Residence: 1871, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Head

    William married Amelia ALLEN on 13 May 1855 in St Teath, Cornwall, England. Amelia (daughter of Nicholas ALLEN and Margaret TINNEY) was born about 1834 in St Teath, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Amelia ALLEN was born about 1834 in St Teath, Cornwall, England (daughter of Nicholas ALLEN and Margaret TINNEY).

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, St Teath, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Daughter
    • Residence: 1861, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Wife
    • Residence: 1871, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Wife

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth COCKS was born about 1855 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England.
    2. 3. Thirza Ann COCK was born about 1859 in St. Teath, Cornwall, England; died on 31 Dec 1891 in Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John HOBB was born about 1779 in Botusfleming, Cornwall, England (son of Richard HOBB and Ann WADLING).

    Other Events:

    • Residence: Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Head

    John married Deborah LAUNDREY on 14 May 1811 in Botus Fleming, Cornwall, England. Deborah (daughter of John LAUNDREY and Elizabeth OUGH) was born about 1789 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England; died in Oct 1883 in St Germans, Cornwall. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Deborah LAUNDREY was born about 1789 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England (daughter of John LAUNDREY and Elizabeth OUGH); died in Oct 1883 in St Germans, Cornwall.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1841, Pillaton, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Wife
    • Residence: 1861, Landulph, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Nurse
    • Residence: 1871, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Relation to Head of House: Mother
    • Residence: 1881, Pillaton, Cornwall, England; Marital Status: Widow; Relation to Head of House: Mother in Law

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth HOBB was born about 1811 in Botusfleming, Cornwall, England.
    2. Richard HOBB was born in 1813 in Botus Fleming, Cornwall, England.
    3. Mary Ann HOBB was born about 1814 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    4. John HOBB was born in 1818 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    5. William HOBB was born about 1818 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England; died on 15 Dec 1859 in St Germans, Cornwall, England.
    6. Thomas HOBB was born in 1823 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    7. 4. Henry HOBB was born in 1825 in Pilllaton, Cornwall, England; died in 1889 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    8. James HOBB was born in 1828 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    9. George HOBB was born about 1828 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.
    10. Samuel HOBB was born about 1835 in Cornwall, England.

  3. 10.  George PAWLEY was born about 1796 in Northill, Cornwall, England (son of John PAWLEY and Mary PROWER); died on 4 Sep 1856 in Landrake With St Erney, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, Landrake With St Erney, Cornwall, England
    • Residence: 1851, Landrake, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Head

    Notes:

    Day Month04-SepYear1856Parish Or Reg DistrictLandrake with St. ErneyForenameGeorgeSurnamePAWLEYAge61ResidenceLandrakeNotesTranscriber NotesTranscriberAngela Wood

    George married Elizabeth LAWRENCE on 16 Apr 1821 in Landrake, Cornwall, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Francis LAWRENCE and Jennifer SHORT) was born about 1801 in Cornwall, England; died on 8 Sep 1847 in Landrake With St Erney, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Elizabeth LAWRENCE was born about 1801 in Cornwall, England (daughter of Francis LAWRENCE and Jennifer SHORT); died on 8 Sep 1847 in Landrake With St Erney, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1841, Landrake With St Erney, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Day Month08-SepYear1847Parish Or Reg DistrictLandrake with St. ErneyForenameElizabethSurnamePAWLEYAge46ResidenceLandrakeNotesTranscriber NotesTranscriberAngela Wood

    Notes:

    Married:
    George is listed as George "Pauling" in the Cornwall marriage index

    Children:
    1. Susanna PAWLEY was born about 1826 in Cornwall, England.
    2. George PAWLEY was born about 1828 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died in Jan 1904 in St Germans, Cornwall.
    3. Catherine PAWLEY was born about 1831 in Landrake, Cornwall, England.
    4. 5. Jane PAWLEY was born about 14 Jul 1833 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died about 31 Dec 1874 in St Germans, Cornwall.
    5. Emily PAWLEY was born about 1836 in Landrake, Cornwall, England.
    6. Richard PAWLEY was born on 21 May 1838 in Landrake, Cornwall.
    7. Sarah PAWLEY was born about 1840 in Cornwall, England.
    8. Elizabeth PAWLEY was born about 1843 in Landrake, Cornwall, England.

  5. 12.  William COCK

    William married Elizabeth RETALLACK. Elizabeth was born about 1814 in Nicholaston, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Elizabeth RETALLACK was born about 1814 in Nicholaston, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1851, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Head

    Children:
    1. 6. William COCK was born about 1836 in St Tudy, Cornwall, England.

  7. 14.  Nicholas ALLEN was born about 1791 in St Breward, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1851, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Head

    Nicholas married Margaret TINNEY. Margaret was born about 1793 in St Teath, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Margaret TINNEY was born about 1793 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1851, St Teath, Cornwall, England; Relationship: Wife

    Children:
    1. Nicholas ALLEN was born in 1817 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.
    2. Elizabeth ALLEN was born in 1821 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.
    3. William Tinney ALLEN was born in 1824 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.
    4. Ann ALLEN was born in 1827 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.
    5. Margaretta ALLEN was born in 1830 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.
    6. 7. Amelia ALLEN was born about 1834 in St Teath, Cornwall, England.



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