Harry HOBB

Male 1855 - 1921  (66 years)


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  • Name Harry HOBB  [1, 2, 3
    • Harry HOBB (b 17 Feb 1855), was the owner of the Grapes Hotel in 1901 when Florence was living there. He was a widower and had 3 children, two of whom also lived in the Hotel. I can't prove there was ever a connection between Harry Hobb and Florence, but I suspect there was. For one thing, barmaids in hotels were usually family members or wives of the owner. Harry lived there with 2 of his children with no other domestic help. Florence also gave her children names that were quite similar to Harry's. Harry's children were: Alice Maud Thurza, Edith Emily Beatrice, and Albert Henry George. Florence named her children: Edith Florence Alice, William Henry, May Beatrice, and Albert Edward.

      Harry Hobb lived in Bristol from about 1887 until about 1896 and then went to the Grapes Hotel in Chipping Sodbury. In In 1904 he was back in Bristol and in 1909 he remarried. He remained in Bristol until his death in 1921. The only relatively stable time in Florence's adult life seemed to be between the years of 1903 and 1908 when she lived at 11 Clare Rd in Bristol, possibly coinciding with Harry's return to Bristol.

      Harry's children immigrated to Canada and Florence would eventually do the same. There is no mention of Florence or her children in Harry Hobb's will.

      The 1901 census took place on March 31, 1901, so Florence was about 3 months pregnant with
      William Henry FISHER. But she already had a daughter, Edith Florence Alice FISHER (b in 1900), who is not living with her in the hotel.
      Florence lists her name on the census as "Florence Fletcher", and states she is single, but William and Edith's birth certificates state
      that her name is Florence FISHER and that she is married to Harry FISHER. Where are Harry and Edith?

      Update 2016: DNA evidence seems to suggest that the father of Florence Fletcher's first two children, Edith and William, was Harry HOBB.
    Born 17 Feb 1855  Cornwall, Pillaton, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Gender Male 
    Residence 1881  Charles The Martyr, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence Dec 1881  28 Well St, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence just before his marriage to Thurza COCKS. 
    Residence 31 Dec 1891  Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Location at the time of his wife's death. 
    Census 1901  The Grapes Hotel, 22 Rounceval St, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    1901 England Census for Florence FLETCHER, barmaid at the Grapes Hotel.
    1901 Census - Grapes Hotel
    Residence Jun 1909  The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence at the time of marriage to Rosa Caroline CARY 
    Census 1911  The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    aka George Inn 
    1911 England Census for Harry HOBB age 55 and family
Rosa Caroline - 39 Lila Scapins - 19 William Harold Bromfield - 17 Rosa Joan HOBB - 5 months
    1911 England Census for Harry HOBB age 55 and family Rosa Caroline - 39 Lila Scapins - 19 William Harold Bromfield - 17 Rosa Joan HOBB - 5 months
    Died 13 Mar 1921  2 St Albans Road, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Death Certificate for Harry HOBB 13 Mar 1921
    Death Certificate
    Buried
    Last Will and Testament for Harry HOBB 13 Mar 1921
    Last Will and Testament
    Person ID I00630  RiemerZajicek
    Last Modified 4 Aug 2016 

    Father Henry HOBB,   b. Abt 1828,   d. 1889, Cornwall, Pillaton, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 61 years) 
    Mother Jane PAWLEY,   b. Abt 1834 
    Married 1851  Cornwall, Pillaton, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F00192  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Florence FLETCHER,   b. 22 Jun 1871, Sheffield, Yorksire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 06 Jul 1927, 688 Magnolia, St. Paul, MN Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 56 years) 
    Children 
    +1. Edith Alice Florence FISHER,   b. 08 Sep 1900, 46 Banner Rd, UD, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Feb 1942, 688 Magnolia, St. Paul, MN Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years)
    +2. William Henry FISHER,   b. 07 Nov 1901, Myrtle Villa, Graham Rd UD, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Dec 1972, 7542 Adams St, Forest Park, Cook County, IL Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years)
    +3. Albert Edward FISHER,   b. 6 Jan 1903, 11 Clare Rd, UD, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Mar 1973  (Age 70 years)
    +4. May Beatrice FISHER,   b. 21 May 1904, 11 Clare Rd, UD, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Sep 1991, Richmond, BC Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)
    Last Modified 27 Jul 2016 
    Family ID F1267  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Thurza A. COCKS,   b. Abt 1859, Cornwall, St. Teath, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Dec 1891, Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Married 15 Dec 1881  Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Certificate for Harry HOBB and Thurza COCKS 15 Dec 1881
    Marriage Certificate
    Children 
    +1. Alice Maud Thurza HOBB,   b. Oct 1882, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Oct 1946, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 64 years)
     2. Edith Emily T. HOBB,   b. 1884, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Sep 1884, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    +3. Edith Emily Beatrice HOBB,   b. 1887, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Albert Henry George HOBB,   b. 1889, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID F00187  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Rosa Caroline CARY,   b. Abt 1872, Puritan, Somersetshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1929, 2 St Albans Road, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years) 
    Married 09 Jun 1909  Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Certificate for Harry HOBB and Rosa Caroline CARY 9 Jun 1909
    Marriage Certificate
    Children 
     1. Joan Rose HOBB,   b. 8 Oct 1910, Shirehampton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Apr 1988, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
    Family ID F00186  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 17 Feb 1855 - Cornwall, Pillaton, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1881 - Charles The Martyr, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Residence just before his marriage to Thurza COCKS. - Dec 1881 - 28 Well St, Plymouth, Devonshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 15 Dec 1881 - Plymouth, Devonshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Location at the time of his wife's death. - 31 Dec 1891 - Nelson St, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1901 - The Grapes Hotel, 22 Rounceval St, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Residence at the time of marriage to Rosa Caroline CARY - Jun 1909 - The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 09 Jun 1909 - Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - aka George Inn - 1911 - The George Hotel, High Street, Shirehampton, Bristol, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 13 Mar 1921 - 2 St Albans Road, Ashley, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Census
    1911 England Census for Harry HOBB age 55 and family
Rosa Caroline - 39 Lila Scapins - 19 William Harold Bromfield - 17 Rosa Joan HOBB - 5 months
    1911 England Census for Harry HOBB age 55 and family Rosa Caroline - 39 Lila Scapins - 19 William Harold Bromfield - 17 Rosa Joan HOBB - 5 months

  • Sources 
    1. [S00009] 1881 England Census, Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;), Database online.
      Record for Harry Hobb

    2. [S00010] 1901 England Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Database online.
      Record for Harry Hobb

    3. [S00011] England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983, FreeBMD, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online.
      Record for Harry Hobb

    4. Footnote: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=6794928.


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